Chairman of the Academic Staff Union of Universities,
Olusegun Ajiboye, University of Ibadan branch, tells OLUFEMI ATOYEBI
that the strike will continue unless the Federal Government honours the
2009 agreement it entered with the union
Apart from union activism, what other work do you do?
I
am a lecturer at the Department of Teacher Education in the University
of Ibadan and an Associate Professor in the institution.
How will you describe the attitude of President Goodluck Jonathan to education in Nigeria?
Everybody thought that President Goodluck Jonathan’s academic
qualification would be an advantage for Nigeria. This is the first time
we are having a president who holds a PhD and we were all hoping for the
best. Being a Doctor of Philosophy puts you at the peak of academic
achievement because other addition will come through promotion.
But we are not only disappointed but also let down. Even the military
regimes that we all condemned supported education more than what we now
have under Jonathan.
What are the issues that led to this strike and confrontation with the government?
If we go by the agreement that the Federal Government had with ASUU
in 2009 and the MoU signed by the FG on January 24, 2012, you will
discover that the critical issue is the funding of federal universities
in Nigeria. There is a need for substantial amount of money to be
injected into the universities to achieve total revitalisation and the
two parties agreed on this. It was agreed in 2009 that a sum of N1.5trn
would be required to fund the 24 federal universities then. It was also
agreed that we will look at the number of students in state universities
to determine how much would be needed to intervene.
With the 2012 MoU, the FG agreed that it would inject N1.3trn over
three years into the universities. The modality for the payment of the
money was that N100bn would be spent in 2012 which would rise to N400bn
annually for the next three years.
When ASUU was making claims about the issue of funding universities,
the government did not trust us, so it set up a committee to verify the
claims. The National Economic Empowerment Development Strategy
Assessment Committee report justified our claims and when it was being
presented to the Federal Executive Council, Jonathan said all the state
governors must also see the report. The NEEDS Assessment Technical
Committee set up on the report said N800bn is required over two years to
fund the schools. By now, the FG should have put in N500bn as
intervention fund for federal universities if the MoU of 2012 was
respected.
Critical to the issue in contention also is the Earn Allowances. This
was part of the 2009 agreement but in 2012, the FG said the
implementation committee should calculate how much is required to pay
the allowance of all staff of federal universities. The committee was
chaired by Wale Babalakin. The committee said N92bn is required to pay
the money over two and a half years period. The government is deceiving
Nigerians by saying that it has released the money already. Out of the
money, N55bn will go to academic staff; the rest would go to
non-academic Staff.
With your members’ salaries suspended, who is funding ASUU and how are your members surviving?
We are familiar with this terrain because this is not the first time
that government will use hunger as a weapon in the struggle. Our members
are determined and convinced that this is a just struggle. God is on
our side and we don’t want any money from anybody. We are resolute in
our demands and we will pursue this to a better conclusion. If the
government wants us to call it off, it should honour our agreement. Our
salaries are stopped but our lives have not stopped.
The government has the machinery to investigate movement of
suspicious funds. We invite security agencies to go through ASUU account
and see if we are receiving money from anyone. Members contribute money
every month, so we do not need funding from anyone.
The Minister of Information, Labaran Maku, warned that the
economy could collapse if the FG accedes to your demands. How true is
this?
His position shows the extent of ignorance of some people. How can
the demand for quality education collapse an economy? If you have to
rebuild a nation, educational system must come first. If the government
could bail out failed banks with about N3trn and the failed airlines
with over N500bn and the economy did not collapse, then there is nothing
too much to do for education. We are talking of Vision 2020 but how do
we achieve it with an educational system in need of a bail out? The
government should be sincere and declare a state of emergency in the
educational sector.
The students seem to be against your action with the call by
some of them under the aegis of the National Association of Nigerian
Students calling on lecturers to return to the classroom. Do you carry
them along in this struggle?
We want to thank our genuine students for the support they have given
so far. There is a difference between genuine and fake students body.
We do not begrudge anyone. ASUU believes that this struggle is about the
future of Nigerian universities. The bulk of our demands will benefit
better learning environment for the students. ASUU is not fighting for
its pocket. Our members work in the schools and have children studying
there. We don’t have the money to send our children abroad but we must
ensure that what we have here is good enough to shape the future of our
country.
ASUU said the lives of their leaders are under threat. Who are the people threatening their lives?
Our members have been stopped by the police whenever they plan to
have peaceful protest while other groups are allowed to do the same. Why
is the government infringing on the rights of our members?
How far can you go in this struggle since the FG has refused to accede to your demands?
This strike is not about how far can we push it, it is about how well
it will end. We want it to end well soon. We want our students to see
evidence of our struggle. We want new hostels to emerge; we want them to
see new classrooms; we also want them to see changes in the whole
system. That is when we can look back and say that it has ended well.
Parents are now beginning to see the reasons for our struggle. Our
graduates are regarded as half-baked but we want this to stop.
Some said ASUU members are comfortable to stay away from
classrooms because they have other means of livelihood like working in
private universities while keeping their jobs in public universities as
well. How true is this?
The university system gives opportunity to lecturers to work as
adjunct staff in private universities. It is a practice all over the
world. We are not encouraging our people to combine too many of these
because they don’t even have enough time to do their normal work. What
we encourage them to do is that they should face their work so the
accusation is not just.
Do you have children in Nigerian university?
My two children attend UI. I don’t even have money to send children
abroad to study or to a private school in Nigeria. As a matter of fact,
any student that passes Universities Matriculation Examination will go
to public school and not private university. We are not condemning any
university but what we are saying is that the quality we parade in
public university must be sustained. Public primary and secondary
institutions have been killed but we don’t want the public university to
die.
How do you approach the issue of discipline among your
members because there are cases of sexual assault involving lecturers in
some universities?
We cherish discipline in our universities. We have Ethics and
Grievances Committee which deals with such cases. We do not condone
impunity. We stand for honesty and integrity.
How will you assess the quality of Nigerian lecturers?
We are best with great teachers that have made their marks in big
universities abroad. We are a group of intellectuals. The minimum
qualification for teaching in a Nigerian university is a Master’s degree
certificate, which makes a lecturer an opinion leader.
Why then do we have graduates who cannot write letters?
That is the basis of our struggle. It all boils down to quality
academic environment and funding. Nigeria is at the lowest rung of the
ladder in terms of university funding in Africa. Ghana puts 30 per cent
of its budget in education.
What is the situation of things now?
As at today, government has made some offers but we will present it
to our people. The strike is still on but we must reiterate the fact
that if the government refuses to honour our agreement in full, we will
not go back to the classrooms.
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