Big,
beautiful and bold are the words that aptly describe Foluke
Daramola-Salako, a crossover actress in the nation’s movie industry. She
is ever frank, particularly when the issue borders on her love life. In
this no-holds-barred interview with MERCY MICHAEL, she talks about all
you have been dying to know about her past and present marriages and why
she seldom acts nowadays, among other issues.
It was once reported that you wanted to start a talk show called ‘Fulfilling Desires’, but what is really holding you back?
Yes, you are right. That was before I went back to school for my
Master’s degree. Personally, I have two passions in life: I am
passionate about humanity and I will do anything to acquire knowledge.
When I got admission into the University of Lagos, Akoka, I couldn’t
combine it with the talk show, so I had to go for my Master’s degree.
But I’m still coming back to it. When I got admission into the Obafemi
Awolowo University, Ile-Ife, I had the option of sticking to
entertainment and continuing with acting or going to school. But I told
myself that showbiz will always be there, so I went to school. I came
out and continued with my acting career. When the opportunity came for
me to do my Master’s degree, it was at the time I wanted to do my talk
show, so I weighed the two and went for my Masters. I have finished my
programme and I’m walking on my talk show now. I’m a perfectionist, so I
don’t believe I should rush anything.
So, what is Fulfilling Desires about?
It’s about womanhood, the pains women go through, what we feel and
how we feel. I intend to talk about things that people just take for
granted: for instance, a frigid woman in a marriage or a frigid lady
that has been raped. I have been a victim of that, so I understand what
it feels like.
You mean you have been a victim of rape?
Yes, my first introduction to sex was rape. I talk about it when I
have to. I was deflowered by a rapist. These are things people don’t
talk about. In my first marriage, I was frigid because of my experience,
aside other things. So, Fulfilling Desire is about things that are
realistic, but which people just sweep under the carpet.
I know you to be an assertive person, so I can’t imagine the fact
that you went into your first marriage without your thinking cap on.
You see, there is something called peer pressure. Yes, I am an
assertive person, but I like to do what my friends are doing. All my
friends were getting married, so I also wanted to get married. When you
were younger, you had some fantasies about your marriage without being
realistic. There is a difference between wedding and marriage. A lot of
people are ready for wedding and not marriage. The first time, I went
into a wedding; but this time around, I knew I was going into a
marriage, so the wedding was not such any big deal to me. The first
time, I was about 26 and I felt I had to be married. I went into it with
both eyes closed because I had butterflies in my tummy. I was in love
and everything. I wouldn’t say it was lust, but I wasn’t prepared. I had
my own faults and he had his as well, and we both learnt from it. I
wouldn’t call the marriage a mistake because I have two issues there.
So, I don’t have any bitterness towards my first marriage. I just see my
ex as one of my brothers that we just had ideological misunderstanding
and we just could not come to terms with that.
I didn’t know I could even get married again because I was resolute
about some things. I don’t want to repeat what I faced there. But I
guess God was just preparing the best for me. This is because the kind
of person I have now is my friend. Someone that understands that Foluke
is just like that; that Foluke wants to assert herself and that she’s
thorough. He is someone that just accepts me the way I am and I can’t
thank God enough for that. Sometimes, you can’t appreciate a good
marriage, if you haven’t been through a failed one before.
You said the first time you got married, you were in love; so, does it mean it is not love this time around?
You see, before two people can decide that they want to get married,
there has to be something deep between them. Love is not as strong as
understanding. Don’t try to change your partner. When I was dating my
present husband, we had that issue and we both sat down and said, ‘Look,
you can’t change me and I can’t change you; let’s just enjoy the best
of it. This is because you find out that it is what you enjoy most in
your partner that causes the problem. If your partner is a quite person,
then, that is the point of attraction. But when you are eventually in
it, it will be the cause of the problem. If your girlfriend is
domineering, that will be the attraction, but that will also be a
problem later. When you start having issues, you now close your eyes to
all the positive sides and you look at the negative ones only. But one
thing I don’t subscribe to and I tell my present husband is domestic
violence. I tell him that if he does anything physical on me, I will
leave. I had been through it before and it had a terrible psychological
effect on me. I didn’t have any form of self-esteem; I was just flat and
out. I will never compromise that. In fact, I will tell whoever wants
to marry my daughter that he dare not, in any circumstance, touch my
daughter because the damage on her will be worse dying. When your
self-esteem is flat and out, you are also dead; so, I do not compromise
it. I can deal with infidelity, but I can’t deal with physical abuse.
I’ve been there before, but I don’t want to talk about it because of the
children involved.
Some women would tell you that they can endure physical abuse, but not a flirtatious husband.
For me, I can’t.
Why?
My pastor, Pastor Sam Adeyemi, says you have to be complete in
yourself. A man or a woman is only there to complement you and every one
of us is after one thing: Happiness. No matter how poor or rich you
are, the only thing we are all after is joy, happiness. So, if I see you
look happy, I will like to relate with you because I will want to share
part of that happiness. Before I got married to my husband, he saw me
as a complete person who was happy. I was a single mother and was
enjoying my status. I was enjoying my time with my kids.
Before then, I had to go to a psychiatrist to deal with myself; and
then, I went to church to deal with myself spiritually because I’m a
spiritual being. Pastor Sam thought me that if you are not complete as a
woman or a man, nobody else can complete you. So, at the end of the
day, I know that if my husband decides to play around, there can never
be another Foluke Daramola. There can only be me and my husband will
always come back home to me because that thing that he has found in me
cannot be found in any other person.
You see, if God says the man you are getting married to is going to
have 15 wives, there is nothing you can do about it. The only thing that
can make me lose my marriage is domestic violence. Apart from this, I
can’t leave my marriage for any other reason. It’s not worth it. That
happiness that I’m deriving from you at that point in time is all I
want.
You said you can deal with infidelity, but how do you deal with the
fact that your husband is sharing his love for you with another woman?
When I left my first marriage, I didn’t expect that I was going to
get married. Again, I told myself that I just wanted a relationship and
marriage. I wanted someone that would be there for me as a companion and
nothing more because, at that time, I liked to be by myself most of the
time. Besides, I told myself that I didn’t want my children to bear
different surnames. I told myself I could just have a relationship
without getting married. The white woman can have a relationship for 15
or 20 years without getting married; it doesn’t have to be marriage.
It’s a mindset; if I believe that out of the whole day, my partner
gives me two quality hours, whatever he does with the remaining 22 hours
shouldn’t be my problem because he’s an individual. For instance, if I
go to a location for days and he doesn’t get worked up and he till talks
to me, then, I should be able to understand whatever he does with his
time. What if you are the only ‘one’ in that home and he has a
girlfriend he’s spending 16 hours with, how would you know? It’s just a
psychological thing; once you know that there is another person outside,
you start to feel that your love is being divided.
For me, I can’t have high blood pressure because I won’t stress
myself unnecessarily. When my husband tells me he loves me, I believe
him sincerely. When I was in my past marriage, people would come and
tell me that they saw my husband with someone, but I never gave them
audience because I was not interested. So, now, when he returns home, he
is mine; and when he’s out there, whatever he does doesn’t bother me
because he doesn’t bother himself with whatever I do. My present
husband, Kayode, will never pick my phone and look through my phone. He
is someone that is liberally- minded, so why will I now be giving myself
hassles. So, sometimes, when they say a man is getting married to
another woman and the woman starts agitating, I feel it is laziness.
One lady that I have so much respect for, though I am not so close to
her, is Annie Macaulay. She’s one person that has settled in her mind
that she wants to be happy with this man and she’s working on that. How
many women can be like that? She’s complete in herself. She understands
that whatever Tuface feels for her can only be felt for her and her
alone. As far as I am concerned, I know that there can only be one me.
Infidelity, for me, can never break my home. I will only deal with it
maturely in a way that you will be shocked. It’s the best thing a woman
can discover. Once you have that thing inside of you, your man will
even be afraid of you because he wouldn’t know why you are so at peace.
You will turn out more beautiful. But once you start getting yourself
worked up emotionally, you are bad and the man will even be running even
farther away from you because that person outside is making herself
beautiful and fine for him. So, the earlier we women understand that and
deal with that, the better for us. We can chose to shy away from it,
but even the Bible says that, in the end time, you will have seven
women, not even two, to one man. So, which part of the Bible are we not
reading? Is it not already coming to pass? So, you have to be realistic
with yourself.
You said you didn’t plan to remarry after your first marriage crashed; so, why did you take that stand?
My conviction was based on the fact that Kayode is my very good
friend. We shared everything and anything. We started out as friends and
colleagues because he’s an activist and I’m an activist too. We were
always talking and unconsciously, we were building a very strong bond.
Before I met him, he was already having issues with his past
marriage. I knew he was not happy about it and his partner also knew.
They had an understanding within themselves and when he felt that he
needed to move on, he moved on. He shouldn’t be crucified for moving on.
Some people would not move on, but they will say they want to have
another wife. If it’s okay by me, I would marry. It doesn’t mean I would
stay in the same house with my husband and the first woman. I would be
on my own and the first woman too will be on her own. But in their own
case, they both decided that they needed to move on. And when they moved
on because of the pressure and the noise, I decided I was travelling
out. Then, my husband called me and said, ‘Look, why would you abandon
me at this time I need you most?’ And I was like, ‘I thought you would
need time to sort your marriage out.’ But he said, ‘It is not working.’
So, I came back and we took a step and we don’t regret it now. We have
our challenges, but I can’t wish for anything more. I’m not a
billionaire or millionaire, but I am happy. Happiness is a precious gift
I will never sell for all the million dollars in the world.
What was the involvement of Pastor Sam Adeyemi in all that happened?
Hmm! I’m not close to Pastor Adeyemi. I went for Advanced Day Star
Leadership programme because I’m one person that has about 10 role
models. I might not have personal contact with them, but I just look at
their ways of life and their preaching. For instance, I am impressed
with the motivational speeches of Fela Durotoye. My husband and I listen
to Pastor Sam Adeyemi’s CD’s and we learn from it. I don’t have to be
close him. More importantly, I don’t listen to what people say, but I
listen to my conviction. You see, if I die today, I will go to heaven
because of the fact that my Bible teaches me just two things: Love your
neighbour as yourself and love God with all your soul. That is the all
encompassing thing about the 10 Commandments. But in Nigeria, we have
turned the whole thing upside down. Our commandments are over 50. Yes,
Pastor Adeyemi is one of my role models.
I love him so much, but I don’t use his standard as a yardstick; I
use God’s standard as a yardstick. That is it. I said it on the Internet
and people were just ‘yapping’ me. I didn’t care anyway. It’s just the
price you have to pay for being a celebrity. I said how many of God’s
favourites in the Bible were monogamists? We are using the English
standard for the Bible standard, but they are two things entirely. The
English standard is different from the Bible. Abraham, David and Solomon
were all God’s favourites. But tell me, how many were monogamists among
them? It just goes to show that at the end of the day, you can’t use
marriage as a standard to make heaven.
Talking about being fair to all concerned, do the children from the past marriage have a relationship with their father?
It is left to the man to be able to know how he juggles his time. For
my husband, he’s one person that creates time for his children. And he
has a perfect relationship with his ex and his children as well. That
makes him the man.
Movie- wise what has been happening to you?
It’s been a while; I just found it boring. If I get the right script,
I will do it. But lately, I haven’t been seeing the right scripts.
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